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Wednesday, May 23, 2007

You have questions? Well I have some answers.





I received an email from one of my readers and we were trying to put some things together in regards to the events that transpired before and after the death of Bryan Kocis. Just to clear a few things up there is an associate who received the pictures of Danny Moilin/Harlow Cuadra; it was Aaron Phelps/Robert Wagner. he recieved an email from Bryan on the 22nd of January containing photos of Danny Moilin. Now this is what I find interesting. Did Aaron meet or see Harlow in Las Vegas? If so did he tell Bryan the truth about whom it was he was seeing on the evening that he was killed. "From what Harlow said in the San Diego beach tapes he intimated that he thought Bryan knew Danny Molina was fake". Now that I find interesting and I truly do wonder if that is the case and if so did Bryan threaten Harlow and this lead to Bryan’s death. Here are some of the questions that one of my readers asked of me. This is in regards to the emails that I shared with Harlow and Joe and Grant.

Q:Elm, questions for you - did you contact Harlow and Joe or did they contact you?

A:No they contacted me with regards to a picture on my blog of Harlow that they wanted changed.

Q:Was this before or after their arrest?

A:It was before the arrest in late march I believe.

Q: Did you know they were going to be arrested?

A:No I did not; it came as a total shock to me. They emailed me that morning about the interview with Damon Louezer the one I told them not to do. I was amazed at the turn of events.


Q:BTW, I also take most of what Kruezer says as nothing but some fantasy story that he has concocted. If you read his blogs (which is hard to do), he comes across as trying to take advantage of this situation - oh, how many interviews should I accept?

A:If Damon Louezer told me that the sun came up in the morning I would want a second opinion

Q: Which scripts should I write and then sell? This has nothing to do with him, but he doesn't see that.
He also says he spoke with Grant recently. I can't see that as being true, considering Grant hates him as much as he does Bryan, but if it is true, can you imagine what these two talked about?



A:Like I said Damon is a lunatic and the sad thing is he believes his own hype. Not a big fan of Grants but I know he has enough sense to stay away from Damon Louezer.

Q:Do you believe Harlow and Joe were set-up?

A:Yes I do, Grant sent them a contract. I do not believe for one minute that they would hatch such a stupid plot such as this. That is the plot straight from the Velvet Mafia. Kill Bryan and achive porn domination. That theory is just a little to far out there to be believed. They told me that Grant had contacted them and they had a nice conversation and that they might be working together soon. We chatted about that in back and fourth emails and also talked on the phone as well. We chatted about other stuff as well cars and video. They received a contract or some type of agreement from Grant and Joe was going to send it to me, I never thought that much about it. I did tell him to take it to their lawyer and have it checked out. Because I thought it could be a trap of some kind because of all the previous stuff that was reported. Which they said they did. Then they told me in another email that they were going to California to see Sean and Grant and possibly film a video. They seemed excited about it and told me to keep it a secret and they would send me confirmation of the video, which they did. A picture I posted on my blog of Harlow and Sean on Blacks Beach. I debated long and hard about posting that picture and I emailed Joe and he seemed to be ok with it so I posted it. I thought it was strange that Sean had on dark sunglasses on an overcast day but really did not question it.

Q: Do you believe the evidence path was just too convenient?

A:Some of it is just to perfect. And some is suspect like the 2 informants are very questionable they worked for Joe and Harlow so the police probably had them up on charges of some kind and what they said was coerced. Joe or Harlow never spoke of Cobra as competition to me. They seemed genuinely sad about Bryan’s death. They were excited about working with Brent and Grant. But they were truly concerned about the timing of the video and they asked me to put up an anonymous poll to see what the demand for such a video would be so I did. Grant emailed me as well about a post I was going to do on Brent and his anger towards Bryan was alarming even after the man was dead. I can understand some of it. But why so much anger after his death? Just move on I say, it’s over. But the anger was quite evident in the email in his tone and it kind of alarmed me. But in all fairness here is an excerpt from Grant's e-mail:

Let me get this clear! I wanted Bryan to pay dearly for what he had done, but not with his life. I wanted him to suffer a very public humiliation; since that was the route HE chose, in addition to lose everything he had, including Cobra Video! Yes, I wanted to kill CobraVideo.com, but not Bryan Kocis! Sean did not feel the same way, until things got progressively worse and Bryan continued to block us at every turn. All the while law enforcement at all levels sat back and allowed him to try to ruin us!



Q: Do you believe either Grant and/or Sean are somehow involved in all of this?

*A:Yes I do to what degree that is debatable. The records being destroyed and the master discs that is all Grant Roy, They had to be told where exactly to look for what they went there to destroy. The house was not ransacked. I know Grant wanted to destroy Cobra Video and he made no bones about it. It was obvious he did not want to settle with Cobra Video he delayed the progress on several occasions. He even stated so in his email. I don't know if killing Bryan was part of the plan though. Something happened on that night and I believe they panicked and Bryan was killed. I believe that when Sean and Grant found out that Bryan had been killed is when Grant panicked and went to the police disavowing all connections to the plan. That's my theory and I'm sticking with it.

*I can not be sure of this and it is purely speculation but from speaking with Joe and Harlow on the phone on a few occasions they did not sound like cold-blooded killers to me. I suspected no fear from them and no anger in their voices when we talked and they never acted as if they were hiding anything. They were actually quite open and friendly. There are references to our conversations in my "Who ever heard of Boybatter post" . I also have read and reread the e mail from Grant and as I have noted before his anger is apparent .So who is to say what plan was hatched. But the results did not benifit anyone. It really is quite sad for all involved.

Update: new links to some interesting history to how this all started. This was forwarded to me by one of my posters who was on the jucigoo forums, The Essance of Double Talk and A snake in sheep’s clothing –The Story of Sean Lockhart vs. Cobra Video



This is Elmysterio and I'm out

288 comments:

  1. I still do not understand what the fixation is with young Mr. Wagner. He lost a friend and is trying to do the best he can with what is left of the buisness. If you can proove he is one of these venom spitting trolls that would be one thing but I have not seen the evidence. A similarity in writing style from his MySpace site is not enough for me. In general I oppose outing people anyway. the Democrats in the House do that for political gain. I just do not see the purpose here.
    I was trying to get through the tedious comments on your last post when this one came in. The Grant/Brent haters continue trying to find some shred of evidence to make these two guilty 'somthing,' anything. Even with two idiots firmly in jail and an amazingly solid Criminal Complaint the Brent/Grant haters still think they can influence somebody with their questions and innuendo's. I is just amazing at this point.
    One comment from the last post I think was ironic. Someone asked why anyone would say anything bad about Brian since he is dead. For four months we have had a constant barrage of nonsense attacking Brent of Grant and they are living. in those four months very little has been said about Brian. I may be and exception as I see no problem in describing exactly what kind of creature he was. It just gets pointless to repeat myself.
    Oh and BB, that picture of my boyfriend on your site, I took that picture. Use it with my perimission. I am hurt you did not include me in your top line. You don't hate me like you do DeWayne. I am sad.

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  2. go for it Elms

    thats what i like to see a bit of ompf ... and you got it ..

    Vote 1 Elms

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  3. yeap i'd agree with waht you say elms and think many others will too ... lets hope theirs a rookie cop or da out there who thinks the same ...

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  4. Another great blog post, Elm!

    As I've said before, Grant's anger is always evident, sometimes on the surface, sometimes just below it, but always there, in any forum message, blog comment or E-mail I've ever seen of his.

    I agree with Albert in his statement about "Aaron." I never understood how or why people suddenly accused "Aaron" of the murder of Bryan on this very blog not too many weeks ago. It seemed to come out of nowhere, as soon as Sean posted on his blog that it was he who was running Cobra Video now, along with Bryan's sister. Bear in mind, to the best of my knowledge, that statement that it is "Aaron" who is running Cobra has yet to be confirmed by anyone other than Sean so I'm not sure how much credibility should be given to that statement.

    Now, here's a theory:

    Perhaps it was "Aaron" who recognized "Danny Moulin" in the E-mail that Bryan sent him, and alerted him to the fact that he was actually Harlow from boybatter and maybe he even saw Harlow in Vegas and maybe he even saw Harlow at the dinner with Grant and Sean. Although there would have been no way for "Aaron" to know that Harlow and Joe had discussed a possible murder plot during the dinner conversation so there would have been no real concern on Bryan's part, just that Harlow and Joe had met with Sean in Vegas. Now, I don't think "Aaron" saw Harlow and Joe with Grant and Sean in Vegas, because if he had and told Bryan of that fact, upon seeing "Danny's" photo, then why wouldn't Bryan have sent that same photo to Sean, who then (should) have told Bryan of the potential murder plot discussion.

    Now, another reason I tend to doubt that the goal was to only steal the masters (although it certainly is an interesting thought and still a possibility) is that Harlow and Joe supposedly brought that knife and a gun to Bryan's house. Now, if they didn't intend to harm Bryan, why the weapons? Both Harlow and Joe appear to be strong individuals and they drugged Bryan's drink (according to what Joe allegedly said to Grant) so why the need for those weapons? I think that whatever their intention for that evening was, they brought the weapons to Bryan's house because they knew he had loaded firearms throughout his house, as it mentions in the affidavit. Now, the only way Harlow and Joe would know that fact about Bryan is if someone who knew Bryan, someone who had been in his house before, or someone whom Bryan had told about the weapons, had told Harlow and Joe that. Based on what we know so far, the only people whom Harlow and Joe had ever talked to that would fit into that category is Sean and Grant.

    Just a theory for discussion, folks, just a theory.

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  5. Or they simply assumed Bryan could be armed. Weapons in a home aren't uncommon in the US as far as I know.

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  6. MJ that is a valid conclusion and something that I did not really think that much about. Brynn contrary to popular belief not that many people I know have guns in their homes or at least hand guns. We are not the wild wild west as you are apt to believe. As far as the Aaron question goes he was just one of the people who would have had access to Bryan so that is why he was considered. Harlow was considered early on but we were told tht he was in Virginia Beach and it was not disproven. So we had to work our way down the list of all possible suspects. Plus when you talk about someone as if they did do it they would come on the blog and deny it and as far as we know Aaron never did that. He seemed to keep quiet. So he was dropped as a suspect and when I mentioned Robert Wagner I never got any response from that as well. When looking back it seems that all the threads were being directed as well they still are by anon posters who have a hidden agenda. hense the Sean Lockhart age issue. it was so simple to resolve and yet we argued about that for so long. a deversionary tactic I would assume.keep us focused on something else so we could not see the truth.

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  7. "Brynn contrary to popular belief not that many people I know have guns in their homes or at least hand guns. We are not the wild wild west as you are apt to believe."

    Yes, I'm aware of it. That's why I said Bryan COULD have been armed. Sorry for the confusion.

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  8. Now that there is a complaint from the police, where did the name "Drake" come from - if Harlow is alledged to have used the name Danny in emails?

    Isn't it clear that the police probably knew who Harlow was before they put his photo in the press claiming it was model named "Drake"?

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  9. This honestly is as bad as Damon Kruezer. You are accusing a person of masterminding a murder plot based on no facts. As I have repeatedly asked how is it that law enforcement have not come to the same conclusion? How is it that one can come to the conclusion that Grant had to have been behind the plot because Joe and Harlow would not have hatched it? How is it that they would not hatch a stupid plot but they would carry out a murder? You base what you say on things you simply do not know. You said "They had to be told where exactly to look for what they went there to destroy. The house was not ransacked". Now let’s assume they wanted to find master tapes and records. The first thing they would do is cut up the couch, throw the dishes from the cabinets and turn over the dining room table? There are a thousand theories as to how that found them. Let’s say Bryan was going to sign Harlow to a contract so they sat down to sign and Bryan pulled a contract out? There you are. I do not understand why you think someone would have to ransack the house to find the part of the house where the business was done and the paperwork and masters were. That simply is not enough evidence to accuse someone of master-minding a murder plot. It is in fact, not evidence at all it is supposition based on facts that you do not have. Did you examine the crime scene? Did you examine the area in question, and see how it was accessed? Obviously not. The authorities have. They have not reached the conclusion you have. You said "I don't know if killing Bryan was part of the plan though. Something happened on that night and I believe they panicked and Bryan was killed". I take it in this you feel that Joe and Harlow committed the murder. That something happened and their plan went awry. If what they wanted was the tapes and the masters why involve Bryan at all? Why not just take your knowledge of where they were lure Bryan away and steal them in and out clean? You said "*I can not be sure of this and it is purely speculation but from speaking with Joe and Harlow on the phone on a few occasions they did not sound like cold-blooded killers to me. I suspected no fear from them and no anger in their voices when we talked and they never acted as if they were hiding anything. They were actually quite open and friendly". This is a bizarre statement. You have already stated that something went wrong and they killed him. Then you go on to say that? You cannot have that both ways. Either they did not kill him and are innocent and that was why they sounded that way, or they murdered him and were sociopaths who were able to be friendly and act like everything was fine. On the matter of why say anything bad about Bryan as he is dead. His death while regrettable, and awful, vile and wrong, and despicable that does not change what happened in life. When Jerry Falwell died last week I could not bring myself to say well Jerry you are dead all is forgiven. Lastly saying that Grant masterminded a murder plot because Joe and Harlow could not have come up with it themselves is Damon Kruezer tactics at their best. You only feel these things you have no proof other than Grants anger at Bryan therefore he must have been behind it. Law enforcement has looked at all the evidence and have not charged Grant and Sean with anything, in fact they seem to have worked in concert with Grant and Sean to put this case together. It is not plausible that they would give Grant and Sean a walk on a murder to get Joe and Harlow. Until you have the facts it is wrong to make accusations on parts of evidence. It is Damon Kruezer like and I wish people would try and wait for all the facts before slandering people. Lastly as to the matter of Aaron Phelps. He is actually the only person in this I have ever met. He was friendly and gracious and for the 3 minutes I talked with him he was charming. I cannot begin to comprehend his loss and how he could cope with it. I think it does not serve anyone to accuse on theory, let the law takes its course. Wait until you have the actual facts and not what you think must have happened before you make charges that you cannot prove. It is shameful. It is Damon Kruezer.

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  10. Elm, I'm not sure where you are getting the Kocis home was not ransacked bit. The just re-read the affidavit and it does not say that. It says a lot of stuff was stolen...computer towers, laptops, cameras, tapes, rolex watches, etc. Sounds like a good ransacking to me.

    Furthermore, Harlow admits on tape, in conversation to Brent, how they "did some recon work" on the house before the murder.

    Obviously, if they had to scout and recon the house out, they must have lacked inside info on the layout of the home. So, when you say "They had to be told where exactly to look for what they went there to destroy." no, I don't see that at all.

    Lastly, the accounts of your conversations with Harlow are fascinating. I didn't realize you had talked on the phone with them.

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  11. Kevin I never said that Harlow and Joe killed Bryan. I said Bryan was killed.This is from the taped conversation"kerekes added that the victim had a contract prpaired for Cuadra upon his arrival". So they did not see where he got the contract from.
    you really need to read page 31 of the affidavit. harlow refers to another person who was there.
    It would appear there was a thrid person. also Bryan made despariging remarks about Sean and Grant as if he knew they were involved.

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  12. Jim the police never said the house was ransacked. they said Items were removed. as for talking to Joe and Harlow I did tlk to them you could have as well. all you had to do is call their phone number.it was listed on the boisrus web-site.oh yeah reread that statement about the recon work. its kind of intersting what you missed.

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  13. just a few comments:

    the affidavit doesn´t say that sean got a pic with the model will come later email. robert w. said he got such a mail with pics but we don´t know and it was not mentioned in the affidavit that he knew the person on the pic.

    bryan´s house seem to be not a mansion. i assume he had a working room where he stored his paperwork and material. probably it was even labeled. so you don´t have to ransack the house.

    if h&j thought cobra was a competition regarding their plans to work with bc it would make sense to destroy at least the bc footage and records. to steal and destroy every footage and records is not much more difficult. even easier because you did not have to check what is what.

    i never understood that enduring anger towards bryan after his death. it came not only from grant but from people within the so-called sean camp too. we outsiders my not understand that because we were not personally involved. these anger was a reason i put certain people in my personal pool of suspects. but without any evidences it makes no sense to accuse people just because they are angry.

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  14. People might want to use the affidavit in the Timothy Boham case as a guide to how much of the afffidavit in the Harlow/Joe case you really want to take as FACT.

    It seems that the State is allowed to affirm to things in an affidavit in a criminal complaint that it "believes to be true". HERESAY appears to be allowed in a criminal complaint AND the accompanying affidavit.

    CASE IN POINT: all of the talk about Timonty Boham breaking into a safe and stealing a safe. The police in Colorado never saw any safe and never recovered any safe.

    The police in PA can't possibly know what property was in Kocis' house at the time of his death. My guess is that whatever the person currently running Cobra Video can't find is probably what the police are claiming H & J stole.

    On the surface of things, it would be impossible to prove what if anyting was stolen from Kocis' house by whoever killed Kocis. There were firemen and police in Kocis' house (and possibly other people) before anyone could have thought to inventory the contents of the house (if anyone ever did).

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  15. elm, you have accused everyone of being 'angry' yet you defended the cobrakiller and his twink. now you have done this turnaround... interesting.

    good post BTW. not saying i agree or disagree with it.

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  16. Important Point
    It is very possible that the Police are charging H & J with stealing the master discs and age paperwork for Cobra Video becasue this property was stored with Kocis' lawyer and was never IN Kocis' house to begin with.

    According to "CAD", these items were held by Kocis' lawyer "inspite of what the law may have required".

    At trial, H & J can call CAD to tesitfy for them that they couldn't have stole something from kocis' house that was never in Kocis' house to begin with.

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  17. Elm.
    You stated"This is from the taped conversation"kerekes added that the victim had a contract prpaired for Cuadra upon his arrival". So they did not see where he got the contract from." I do not follow that. If the contract was prepared you are saying that contract was not in the place there the other paperwork and masters were stored? How did you reach that conclusion?
    "you really need to read page 31 of the affidavit. harlow refers to another person who was there.
    It would appear there was a thrid person." Harlow said it so therefore it is true? All that appears is that Harlow said it. Either way if they were involved in a crime that ended up in murder the law will see them as murderers. If there is a person driving a getaway car at a bank robbery and the person inside the bank kills a security guard the person driving the car will be found guilty of murder. Even if one were to subscribe to your theory they would have to have known what happened yet that did not show in your conversation with them? Again what you are saying is a supposition not based on fact. Lastly can you clarify something? You said "Bryan made despariging remarks about Sean and Grant as if he knew they were involved." I do not understand what you mean there. They were involved in what? Even by your own words you state "as if" how do reach the conclusion that is what he meant?

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  18. Anon 8.28 whopee I get a free flight!! So long as they realise that I don't travel coach.lol

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  19. Anon 8.19

    I would say the evidence on the cameras is pretty conclusive if serial numbers can be obtained. Otherwise it would be more circumstantial.

    It may be more difficult to prove the loss of the computers etc, but the central charges are the murder itself.

    From a strategy point of view any defender has to be mad to blame the fire crews - who risked their own lives - of theft. You don't want to piss off the jury.

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  20. and why would anyone steal a burned computer tower?

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  21. elm why on earth did you contact all the players in this saga?

    talk about getting directly involved in drama.

    its one thing to say things in blogs, its another to send emails and call them on the phone, it is clear how you were played by ALL you were in contact with. this blinded you to the truth. do not even attempt to tell me you were looking for the truth coz the truth is and has been in front of everybody the whole time.

    you claim you were one of the posters on JG in the forum that was removed. what was the name you used to post? i find it odd you make little mention of those posts, also had you seen them you would have known how much of an angry person the cobrakiller is at that time, not through some email you recently got from him.

    there goes that credibility thing again. will you ever be consistent? will you ever take responsibility for your actions towards people who you have attacked, lied to and lied about? probably not.

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  22. "I did tlk to them you could have as well. all you had to do is call their phone number.it was listed on the boisrus web-site."

    Well, LOL, yes I suppose I could have...but then two vicious killers might have gotten my home number on caller ID. So, I'm actually rather grateful I didn't.

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  23. albert of course i do not hate you, despite what you and the sean camp say and think, i can not hate people i do not know. however i can dislike them based on what i know.

    time to buy your 'boy' a rug :) i can see why he wears a cap in most pics i have seen of him... however that does not begin to cover his flaws. maybe an iron mask?

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  24. In our email correspondence, Bryan told me how close he remained with both Austin and Aaron. In one of his last emails to me, he told me he spent Christmas in NYC with Aaron and some other Cobra boys (he did not mention their names). He always mentioned how proud he was of Austin, in particular, and what Austin had accomplished professionally after leaving Cobra Video.

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  25. a reporter in VA said the affidavit of the PA Police was "unusually detailed". Apparently, an affidavit 21 pages long is not the routine.

    Seriously, it looks like the police have been unable to determine who actually killed Kocis and they are trying to FORCE Harlow & Joe to disclose who did.

    The police clearly believe that H & Joe know who killed Kocis.

    The only person who can testify as to what H or J stole from Kocis' house is someone who saw them take it. It is very odd that three guys new to a neighbhorhood could be filling up an SUV with stolen goods from the Local Gay Pornographer's house and no one in the neighbhorhood notices anything until the house goes up in flames.

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  26. important point #2 - who has the kiddie porn?

    If H & J stole the Cobra Video discs and destroyed them, then the kiddie porn Bryan Kocis produced no longer exists.

    If CAD is correct that Kocis' lawyer has the Cobra Video discs, the Kocis' lawyer is in possession of kiddie porn.

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  27. Anonymous said...

    important point #2 - who has the kiddie porn?

    If H & J stole the Cobra Video discs and destroyed them, then the kiddie porn Bryan Kocis produced no longer exists.

    If CAD is correct that Kocis' lawyer has the Cobra Video discs, the Kocis' lawyer is in possession of kiddie porn.

    May 24, 2007 10:01 AM


    CORRECT!

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  28. Whether in your judgment (Elm) H/J sounded like cold-blooded killers on the phone really has no relevance.

    It's possible H/J arrived at Bryan's without the definite intention of killing him, but the Danny Moilin e-mails make it clear they did not arrive innocently. Whatever alternative plan they might have had (and that's purely speculative) might have derailed when they realized Bryan knew who they were. They might have intended to take and destroy Cobra's assets, figuring that eventually Bryan would learn who was responsible but since it was a "mere" robbery case they would not be pursued as thoroughly as they were. This might explain why the steps they took to cover their tracks were not as good as they needed to be. It might also explain Harlow's alleged "my boy went overboard" comment. It's speculation, but speculation that is not contradicted by the facts as we know them.

    Elm complains of the age question as being a diversion. I'd comment that the Damon Kruezer discussion is similarly pointless.

    I agree with Albert about not understanding the return of Robert Wagner to Elm's discussion. Yes, it's possible that he knew Danny=Harlow and told Bryan, which might explain why he recognized Harlow (if he did). (I wonder if anyone has seen fit to apologize to Aaron/Robert about the previously posted, detailed accusations that seemed to be based on nothing.) On the topic of Bryan's e-mails about the appointment, it will be interesting to find out if the one to Sean included a photo; the affadavit does not say one way or the other.

    I believe the affadavit quotes someone as saying that the two computer towers were kept in the dining room. It also says that Harlow describes a room upstairs, implying they had moved around the house at least somewhat.

    I also thought that the affadavit could be read to imply that there was a third person at the scene besides H & J - but it isn't entirely clear. I recall it referring to Harlow having conversations with "various persons" in Bryan's presence. Of course one could be a phone conversation. It mentions the doorbell ringing while Harlow is there, but that could be Joe's arrival, if he'd initially waited outside.

    It's possible H/J learned that Bryan kept guns in his house from G/S, but that doesn't necessarily mean there was a plot. It's also possible that the background check Harlow purchased would reveal gun permits, but I don't know. Regardless, if you are planning a robbery when the victim is at home, you'd want weapons to keep the victim under control. If the plan was always murder, of course, the need for weapons is self-evident.

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  29. Anon.............

    Just to test your theory why don't you repeat your allegations about atty. Sean Macias in a Glendale newspaper.

    That should avoid you having to wonder what to do with your savings, your car, your house......

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  30. Details, Details, Details
    ALLEGATION: Harlow called Sean and told Sean to take a look at a certain website that had news of Kocis' murder.

    Well,

    The only way that Harlow, a Virginia resident, could have known what was on a Luzerne County tv station's website was if :

    1. Harlow was monitoring that particular website for news of Kocis death; or
    2. Harlow did a google search on Kocis' name and that tv station was in the google news results.

    NOW, if Harlow did a google search on Google News for Kocis' name to find the link to the tv station's website, THEN that means that a lot of people who should have known of and about Sean and Kocis should also have learned of Kocis murder at about the same time Harlow found the link to the tv news station's website.

    According to the police affidvait, the first person in the US to alert Lockhart of Kocis murder was Harlow. And, Harlow gave Lockhart a link to a Pennsylvania/Luzerne County tv station's website.

    KEEP IN MIND, as a blogger, I routinely do google searches on the phrase "gay", "gay men", "gay porn" etc. several times a day. All of the gay bloggers on the net would probably have learned from google news of Kocis' murder before Harlow found an internet link to the news.

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  31. as I recall, the first news link on the web about Kocis murder was via Citizen Voice's website.

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  32. Sean and Grant think that Harlow and Joe's arrest exonerates them from Bryan death, but that is a huge miscalculation. The facts and photographs of their involvement with Harlow and Joe, BEFORE, Bryan was killed ties them culpably to Bryan death to all but their most deluded rabid fans (and there are like 10 of those?)

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  33. Joe and Harlow in jail, Grant and Sean not in jail. Joe and Harlow in jail, Grant and Sean not in jail. Joe and Harlow in jail, Grant and Sean not in jail.

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  34. Grant and Sean not in jail, YET.

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  35. In your eagerness to bash Damon Kruezer and claim he's not accurate, did you notice how he's the ONLY one with news about Gay Porn Blog cowriter Jack Shamama leaving Falcon today? The guy has some top level sources and often is first with factual material you others can't or won't touch. So my vote of confidence is in Damon K and the upcoming magazine article he's working on. Go Damon!

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  36. "Go Damon!"

    Yes, Go! ... away

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  37. BB you are putting words in my mouth. I never said I posted on Juciygoo. I said I read the forums. As far as calling Joe and Harlow thay asked me to call them and it was about pictures on my blog. I did not seek them out they contacted me first. As far as my credibilty goes I really don't care what you think of me. I have no reason to lie in this mess I have no stock in who is involved. It is not a win or loose situation for me. Everybody directly involved in this mess has already lost. I hope you get that.

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  38. "Anonymous said...
    Grant and Sean not in jail, YET. "

    Oh you know, that reminds me...

    Gee, it's now day 5 (of 29), and there is no news of Brent and Grant being charged or arrested with anything connected to the murder!

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  39. Kent,
    You left out the part about about every lie you have told. Shall we post the PDF's of your mother getting evicted from senior citizens housing because you (Kent) were comitting welfare fraud. How about telling the court you lived in a rental mailbox. Fraud again this time with forgery. How about hiding behind your mother in the bathroom of a welfare motel in Norwell avoiding a process server. What a man. Kent you are a lying fruad who tries to destroy people with lies. In order to have any credibility you have to tell then truth. You are incapable of that. Now you are at an all time low even for you. No matter what one feels about this situation you trying to use it to your won advantage is repulsive. Imagine the brass balls you have claiming to give advice to anyone. Someone who commits welfare fraud by living in senior citizens assisted housing and getting his own mother exicted from her home of 17 years thinks he can give advice to anyone? Someone who commits fraud and perhury about living in California can pass judgement on anyone else? You think you can lie and destroy others because you are and have nothing yourself. You are a mother abusing pig.

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  40. Kevin, lets make this simple you are expecting a model. You prepare the contract. You have it out and ready sitting on a table or in a folder. The model comes in and the contract is sitting there no need to get up to go get it. As far as your next question just because Harlow said it does not make it true. Very interesting point. So the police can use Harlow’s statement to convict but it could also be a lie? So then if the statement’s that Harlow is making are at best hearsay evidence and that he is just reporting what he was told to Sean and Grant because when Bryan was killed he was not there it is still deemed as the truth? Harlow refers to statements made by the victim about Sean and Grant, he implies that the victim might have recognized him from the Internet. I am just playing Devils advocate here. What ever was said on the tape-recorded conversations is just Harlow and Joe’s statements but can not be construed as fact because they could just be reporting what they were told by the killer. We can not be sure if they were there when Bryan was killed. It could be that they read the newspaper and are just reporting what they read to ingratiate themselves to Sean and Grant. The police do not have any physical evidence to put them in the house at the time of Bryan’s murder.

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  41. BB you can take you fight with deWayne to youre blog or his Blog. don't bring your childish games here. it is not cute and I will not tolereate it.

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  42. anonymous 11:35 am said:

    »The facts and photographs of their involvement with Harlow and Joe, BEFORE, Bryan was killed ties them culpably to Bryan death to all but their most deluded rabid fans (and there are like 10 of those?)«

    The authorities know all about those facts and photographs, and a lot more that we don't know.

    To echo Kevin Clarke, "Harlow and Joe are in jail, Sean and Grant are not in jail."

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  43. Elm
    "Kevin, lets make this simple you are expecting a model. You prepare the contract. You have it out and ready sitting on a table or in a folder. The model comes in and the contract is sitting there no need to get up to go get it"
    How do you know that the contract wasn't in the same place where the other paperwork was? Is it a strecth to think that a person would do all there business in the same place? How do you come to the conclusion that you know where the contract was? My point being that you use the evidence that the house was not ransacked as the reason behind they had to know where to go. That is supposition not a fact. As for no evidence that Harlow was there if I recall there is indeed evidence from Bryan himself. Was he not on the phone with someone and said hold on the model is here and came back to the phone and said I have to go the model is here. Were it not the model in the picture would Bryan have said the model is here?".

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  44. As for the affidavit it is based on supposition. They have email records and phone records and a motel record and a rental car record. They even have Joe and Harlow purchasing a knife and a gun. But they have no real definitive proof that they were in Bryan’s house. The police just have Joe and Harlow’s statements, which could be deemed as lies because they really can not be trusted? Also they refer to a third persons involvement in this crime that could be the actual murderer. He was mentioned at the restaurant and he was refereed several times in the police recordings. Just to clear up another point the police do nt have a murder weapon. They are basing the weapon on the knife that Joe and Harlow purchased. Trooper Hannon went and purchased a similar knife and showed it to the pathologist and asked it “could be” the weapon. They also had a gun but they did not use it, why not use the gun, would it not have been quicker? So the case is mostly circumstantial and not as open and closed as we all thought.

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  45. you could be right about it all. But if Bryan did know who Harlow was then he would have told the attorney on the phone. But he did not he used a different name. Danny I believe. So the police could not prove he was actually there thats why they needed the beach tapes and they still don't prove he was there they just prove that he knows who was.

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  46. If there indeed was an ominous third person that committed the murder, why don't they just bring forward the name of that person and exculpate themselves?

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  47. you all cna jump all over me if you want to but just get this straight you are innocent until proven guilty. none of us have definitive proof of anything that really happened and as far as I'm concerned it is all supposition. so we can argue our points till the cows come home but we are not on the jury and we are not privy to all the facts in this case. we are just privy to what they want us to know. I just happened to be in contact with some of the players and I have versed my opinion on these matters. You all have your opinions and you are welcome to state them as well.

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  48. Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

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  49. Anonymous said...
    Joe and Harlow in jail NOW, Grant and Sean not in jail SOON.

    So what you are saying is that you will be in jail later? very interesting statement Grant. Is this a confesion?

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  50. bryn said...
    If there indeed was an ominous third person that committed the murder, why don't they just bring forward the name of that person and exculpate themselves?


    That would be all fine and good but Joe and Harlow have plead innocent and to admit that there was a third person would be the same as admitting guilt in the murder. So as I see it they would not do that.

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  51. elmysterio said...

    BB you can take you fight with deWayne to youre blog or his Blog. don't bring your childish games here. it is not cute and I will not tolereate it.

    May 24, 2007 1:22 PM

    your really nutz. you do not address the issues/questions i raise with because you can't. your trail of lies and bs is all over the internet.

    who said i was fighting with depain? it has nothing to do with you... NOTHING.

    as for childish games, who is bb? you showed yourself up in that one big time, talk about being played LOL.

    i really do not care if you resort to censorship or deletion of posts on your blog.

    your flip flopping on your own blog is something thats for sure.

    if bb is the killer, why has he not been arrested?

    still waiting for you to tell us why and how harlow were set up and could not be involved in all of this?

    these are questions related to issues you alone raised.

    make drama with someone else, i am not interesting in playing your silly little games, though i may comment on them once in a while.

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  52. elm says

    So as I see it they would not do that.

    May 24, 2007 2:11 PM

    the way you have seen this mess so far, has been way off base.

    the way you see it is the way they want you to see it.

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  53. From where I sit the fact that they have pleaded not guilty is what is keeping Grant and Sean out of jail. If they changed their plea and implicated the third person they could also implicate Sean and Grant in this murderous plot as well. So as long as they maintain their current pleas Sean and Grant are free and clear. But if the make a deal all involved will be implicated. Do I see this happening you betcha. And this will happen sooner than later.

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  54. BB you have a problem with my opinions and me and that is fine. You have your blog but yet you don't allow comments, why is that? Are you scared of what people might say? I have been here for at least 4 months and I have taken all the comments made here and read them and some I have agreed with and some I have not. You have come here and all you have said was Cobrakiller this and Cobrakiller that. You said you had a fight on the Juicygoo forum yet you never have said who you were there. I don't care what you say about me because I have facts about this case that you do not have. And I know that pisses you off. You have accused me of everything under the rainboe at every chance you get but that does not bother me I have learned to move on unscathed by your anger and hate. The truth of the matter is you are no better than the Cobrakiller who you claim to hate and I find that at best a sad commentary on who you are as a person. I have maintained the same point of view the whole time I have been posting on this blog. And that was to get at the truth. You have denied the truth every chance you get because it does not follow what you want it to be. My methods of getting at the truth may not suit you and that is fine and you definitely don't have to agree with me. As far as accusing you of being the killer I have apologized for that and you know it. So move on, I have. If you don't believe I have any credibility than don't read my blog, save yourself the aggravation there are plenty of other blogs that are dealing with the same subject matter, yours included. Oh and BB your insults show you for the real person that you are. You are hate filled and that is sad and I hope you can get some resolution with that. Oh yeah and you have a mice day.

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  55. How can ya all start elm bashing - here is a forum to discuss and work through this .... look at all the posts here .... and they show elms and others working through the case... bb...who is .... exactly ... aaron .. where is ... who owns cobra.... who is grant .... kevin where did he appear from .... so yeah give ELMS a break fellas - look at th interesting FACTS that have come from this blog.

    dont think that elms has ever come out and said this and that happened - he states these are his theories ... as mine are mine .. and bb's are his ... and so on and so on ....

    you'd have to be mighty dumb to think that this case is a simple throw away the key case .... there is a lot to get through yet..

    i don't know the american legal system ... but from what i have read ... its going to be a bumpy ride for all involved .... the ones in jail and the ones not in jail ...

    as much as sean and grant would like to just get on with it .... i feel that people will fast loose support

    i have said before that i supported BCO via a donation to brentaid ... and yeah think he was sorrta cute and had some interest ... but after this fiasco and the suss comments from his b/f ... i would never support the site or the model again with any cash... and i feel that would be the same for many an original brent supporter

    so jail or not i'd have to think that things aint so sunny over at the sean camp

    and thats my two bobs worth (20cents)

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  56. Anonymous said...

    "From where I sit the fact that they have pleaded not guilty is what is keeping Grant and Sean out of jail"

    spot on.

    they must be dreading joes bail hearing. if joe does get bail, will sean and his cobrakiller go "on the run"? will they then say "joe fucked everything up"?

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  57. BB your agreement with my comment just tanked all of it's credibility. Because you opinion here means nothing.and that is spot on.

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  58. elm says:

    "I don't care what you say about me because I have facts about this case that you do not have."

    what facts do you think you have? i ask because 'facts' you have presented are usually withdrawn at some point.

    somewhere along these blogs i seem to have missed your claimed apology, could you point me to where it is? thank you.

    with you elm's, i am keeping it real. your not an involved player as much as you tried to be. you only know what you are told. nothing more, nothing less.

    say and think of me what you will, you do not know me. however, my rants (consistent theories) as you call them, have yet to be shown as wrong.

    lets be clear to what my rant (theory) is/was:

    cobrakiller did it - then shown to be nowhere near PA at time of murder.

    next obvious conclusion: he hired someone to do it - be it paid in cash or promises made - a hitman is a hitman regardless right.

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  59. May 24, 2007 2:52 PM

    i love u 2 :)

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  60. geeting mighty bitchy in here ey ...

    see us people who aint directly involved in the case ... well we have our points and ideas and theories.... BUT it appears the ones that get really angry and really personal are directly involved ... the shear frustration they must feel when posting and not being able to say ... "but its ........ and i know what i said" ....

    thats just the cream on the cake

    lovin it

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  61. Elm now you have gone to far. Asking BB to have a mice day. Why are you bringing rodents into this discussion? Is it really fair to bring rodents down to this level of discourse?

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  62. hey rob imagine us all in a chatroom at once LOL.

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  63. better still in the jury room ...

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  64. why is BB not loved? oh BB look on the last post velvet mafia reloaded your apology is there and you have just totally proven my point you only read what you want to read. you are blinded by your anger you really need to step back and take a deep breath. anf Kevin that was a mean and unnecessary comment. BB is not a rodent unless a weasels are in the rodent family, are they? plus I think weasels are kinda cute.

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  65. Does anyone have information about Joe's bond hearing, that was supposed to take place today? Did it? What was the outcome?

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  66. no it was postponed until tommorrow

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  67. I clearly stated my love for weasels

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  69. rob i did not think of that... i think those left of the jury would be up on their own serious charges LOL. omg the mere thought. could make for a good comedy hour somewhere too i imagine :)

    elms u know i luv u 2 :)

    without me your... LOLOLOLOLOL.

    tomorrow bb shows a self head 2 toe pic... bet you cant wait eh elms.

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  70. neither can i bb
    a self portrait ?

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  71. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=20191741

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  72. Elms ~ Funny how Aaron is coming back into the discussion. Even if he didn't kill and/or set up Bryan, I still think he's involved in this.

    -Nick

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  73. There is too much cod law being sprouted around so it may be helpful to place the affidavit in context.

    Anon 1.46 said

    "As for the affidavit it is based on supposition."

    NO the affidavit contains details of evidence. However evidence is not deemed to be fact until tested and found so by a jury. At the affidavit stage it is only meant to be sufficient to support the verdict of a judge that "there is a case to answer"

    Therefore the affidavit's only purpose is to show sufficient cause to arrest and then remand Harlow & Joe. The issue of bail is a completly separate one.

    Thanks to a little document (Magna Carta) that we drafted here in the motherland and you guys chose to adopt within your own laws everyone has a right to bail (habius corpus etc.) and therefore the burden is on the prosecution to prove why it should be withheld.

    However reasonable grounds to refuse bail include the risk of the accused not returning to court(flight risk), interfering with witnesses and committing further offences.

    Although it is my understanding that the US system is more generous than the UK and places (in my opinion) undue faith in the bail bond system.

    In my opinion too much is being read into every word and phrase of the affidavit. It has already served its purpose by securing the arrest.

    Should Harlow & Joe plead not guilty and the matter proceed to trial then the prosecution case will be more comprehensive and robust.

    Similiarly, the document is not intended to describe everything that has happened in Bryan or anyone elses life. It only deals with the charges at hand irrespective of whether other people or other charges remain to be involved.

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  74. By Azathoth's amorphous ass, Elm…

    You spoke with H/J between March and May of this year -- at the precise time the police were staking out their home, going through their financials, and trying to figure out where the boys were. The police have explicitly stated this.

    H/J were in the process of selling their home and everything in it to pay for their life on the run. Julien confirmed this.

    H/J bought the knife, the gun, used their credit cards, their internet accounts and, when they thought they were completely safe and unobserved, disclosed details unreleased to the press about the inside details of Bryan's home, (what they thought to be ) the original Cobra videos, and, most importantly how Bryan suffered as he died. The taped conversations on the beach reveal this.

    What are you not getting?

    Despite what you may see in movies and on TV, you can't listen to a person on a telephone call and determine if they are cold blooded killers. People don't chortle, snicker and laugh manically while lying. The fact that they sounded like nice guys every time you spoke with them doesn't change what they (allegedly…but c'mon!) did.

    Because you choose to believe that there is something more going on here, something more than is supportable by the evidence on available to us, you've now turned around and accused Grant of being an accessory to murder. J'accuse Grant Roy! Why? Because you have a feeling.

    El, Harlow and Joe lied to you. If you believe that, despite copious amount of evidence to the contrary, you are smart enough to know that they were really telling you the truth, then you are simply lying to yourself.

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  75. Harlow wanted to impress Sean.

    If you look at what has been posted here and elsewhere by the Boybatter team it has been designed to impress.

    The increase in revenues, the Honda with the biggest engine, the most expensive DVD printer, the value of the house. All exagerated and designed to impress because of a weakness in personality.

    From what is in the public domain and the discussions we all have with other people behind the scenes I have no doubt that it was Harlow & Joe that murdered Bryan and were alone with him in his house that evening.

    I also believe that Sean was distressed when he learned of Bryan's murder.

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  76. Cad said...
    I also believe that Sean was distressed when he learned of Bryan's murder.


    I'd like to believe that as well Cad. I, however, believe Grant was anything but distressed when he learned of it.

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  77. "Harlow wanted to impress Sean"

    Yes, people lie about the value of their house or the size of their dick to impress. But they kill for revenge or a percieved VERY large personal gain, NOT just to impress...

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  78. I recalled the affadavit incorrectly earlier. What it says is:

    Cuadra spoke of conversations the victim had with various individuals while Cuadra was present.

    These could be phone calls received by Bryan while Harlow was still playing the innocent model applicant - the existence of which only someone at the crime scene would know. So there's less to indicate the possibility of a third attacker than I'd thought.

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  79. rob in oz said...

    neither can i bb
    a self portrait ?

    May 24, 2007 3:38 PM


    unlike others, my camera does not lie! :)

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  80. mike in TN said...

    a few questions :

    1. what is the next step in the legal process for Harlow and Joe? Is it a preliminary hearing.. or what?

    2. maybe this was cleared up a long time ago on the blogs and i've just missed it, but, did we ever get an answer on the infamous "missing Maserati" ? was it ever there in the first place? if so was if actually missing / found ?

    3. on the subject of the age issue / kiddie porn (which is quite a stretch to refer to it as kiddie porn even if he was 17, in my opinion)..... If in fact sean was under age for those movies he made that are now off the market, does that mean they are now illegal to possess? like all those people who unknowingly purchased them are now in possession of "child porn" and could be prosecuted for having it?

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  81. What did Austin Sterling do after Cobra

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  82. I've been lurking on these discussions, and I haven't heard much talk about the Norfolk Companions angle. It seems that this 'escort' service was/is blatent prostitution. The kind of balls it must take to run such a public prostitution service shows what kind of cocky guys H&J are, and that they think they're somehow smarter than the cops. I'd love to have seen the looks on their faces when they first saw how much evidence the cops had. In the end, these two don't seem very bright.

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  83. Anonymous M[May 24, 2007 5:03 PM]
    said:

    »I, however, believe Grant was anything but distressed when he learned of it.«

    You can believe what you want. I believe that Grant had mixed feelings then he learned of the murder.

    On the one hand he detested Bryant and would be happy to see him out of the picture.

    On the other hand, there was the settlement agreement which bound Sean to Cobra. As has been pointed out, since the agreement was with Cobra and not with Bryan personally, Bryan's murder did not release Sean from his obligation to Cobra. Bryan's murder in fact complicated things for Sean (and Grant) since it took out of the picture the person who could implement the agreement while still leaving the agreement in place.

    I think that the preceding paragraph might explain Sean's comment to Jody that "Harlow and Joe fucked things up" and Harlow's apology to Sean in the nude beach tapes.

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  84. Keith and Anon at 7:33p.m. You wandered into the wrong thread. There is a Lynching in progress here So please dont Fuck it up with "reason & logic"

    Keith I first noticed Boybatter and Norfolk last November. I am sure this Racketeering investigation has been in full swing for sometime. The complaint lists 2 informants(prob escorts with prior’s) who have been “cooperating” since last year. H&J were going down before Jan 24th that was just the capper on the escapades of this duo.

    They really did seem to think they could get away with murder and why not They got away with Prostitution for 2 years, right in front of everybody!

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  85. the big problem with your logic is that you don't need RICO to combat something as simple minded as prostitution.

    RICO was not created to go after hookers.

    RICO was created to go after ENTERPRISES that were seemingly legal but were in fact funded by or aided by organized crime. RICO was created because a lot of mob connected people like John Gotti had expert lawyers and expert accountants that were good at protecting people like Gotti from the laws that were already on the books.

    Keep in mind that Gotti beat RICO everytime until the Feds prevented Bruce Cutler from being Gotti's lawyer.

    IT is GROSS OVER KILL for the State of Virginia to use RICO to get two gay escorts arrested, it is almost laughable. An impartial judge should see RICO charges against two gay escorts as a joke.

    If H & J had mob connections and their esort and porn businesses were just fronts for laundering mob money then THAT would be a legitimate RICO complaint.

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  86. Could Virginia really be helping Harlow & Joe

    RICO charges are serious charges but, RICO charges to go after gay escorts has to be someone's idea of a joke UNLESS ...

    Virginia could very well file RICO charges and freeze H & J's assets in order to make a case for REFUSING RENDITION OF HARLOW AND JOE TO PENNSYLVANIA. Virginia now has an extremely good legal argument for refusing to extradite H & J to Pennsylvania - by arguing that Virginia's RICO's charges should go to trial FIRST.

    I find it impossible that Virginia and Federal Agencies could have investigated this case without coming away from all of this with the opinion that there is something rotten in Luzerne County.

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  87. Anonymous said...
    mike in TN said...

    a few questions :

    1. what is the next step in the legal process for Harlow and Joe? Is it a preliminary hearing.. or what?
    the next step for Joe is a bail hearing and than in June a hearing on the extradition argument

    2. maybe this was cleared up a long time ago on the blogs and i've just missed it, but, did we ever get an answer on the infamous "missing Maserati" ? was it ever there in the first place? if so was if actually missing / found ?
    It was never missing, it was a neighbor who mentioned the car. It was in the garage the whole time from what I understand. It has since been sold along with the Aston Martin. The BMW sustained minor damage from the fire but has been repaired and will sold as well. As per the will all assets are to be sold and the revenue is to be divided among the heirs.

    3. on the subject of the age issue / kiddie porn (which is quite a stretch to refer to it as kiddie porn even if he was 17, in my opinion)..... If in fact sean was under age for those movies he made that are now off the market, does that mean they are now illegal to possess? like all those people who unknowingly purchased them are now in possession of "child porn" and could be prosecuted for having it?
    The first 4 titles staring Brent Corrigan would be considered Contraband because Brent lied and said that he was 18 at the time of production. When in fact he was not he was 17 years old so there for the would be deemed illegal to possess. As far as anything that Brent has uttered the only thing that I believed was that he was under age at the time of production of those videos.
    May 24, 2007 6:02 PM

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  88. Does it strike anyone else as odd that so many agencies (including, strangely, DEA and NCIS) were all involved in the 4/27-28 beach surviellance?

    It's not a simple thing for so many disparate law-enforcement bodies to put together a Task Force to effect such a surveillance. Certainly hard to do on short notice. And that being so, does the time factor not auger toward the notion that Sean and Grant were cooperating with authorities in its execution?

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  89. Anon 10:32 the Feds went after Operation Rescue with RICO during the Clinton administration. The Patriot Act is being used in criminal cases that do not include Al Quada. Indeed the "electronic intercepts" on the Nude Beach were FBI/DEA because there is no mention of search warrants in the affidavit(for those intercepts) California has such strict wiretap laws that the Fed's are usually called in when a 'tap" is needed.

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  90. There's no mention of the FBI in the affadavit, oddly enough. How does the DEA justify its participation when there's no talk of a drug crime? And, finally, why on earth the Naval Criminal Investigative Service? No service-members are involved are they? Are Cuadra or Kerekes in the Naval Reserve?

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  91. Because the Feds have suspected Norfolk/Boybatter of using servicemen in productions & as escorts (Hello NCIS). The DEA supplied the "listening devices" (They do drug cases) The FBI who knows(murder across state lines)? BUT the Patriot Act is an all encompassing law I am sure if it can be used against Marian the Librarian , then Joe & Harlow are not exempt.

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  92. As long as Joe and Harlow maintain the not guilty pleas Sean and Grant will not be Charged in the murder of Bryan Kocis. If they change their plea it could cause Sean and Grant a world of hurt.

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  93. Because the Feds have suspected Norfolk/Boybatter of using servicemen in productions & as escorts.

    That was my second guess. :) Thanks.

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  94. someone hinted that you do not need a search warrant/legal authority to intercept conversation on a public beach.

    If the above were true, I don't think that Barry Taylor would have jumped at hinting that there was probably something inappropriate about three states participating in intercepting a private conversation on the nude beach.

    Based on Taylor's comment, it might have been legal for San Diego/California to bug the beach converation. But, for California to participate with PA and VA and Federal Agents presents a problem.

    The legendary STATE'S RIGHTS DOCTRINE more or less holds that each state is an independent (more or less) "nation" that can make its owns laws and govern its own people.

    Under the historic State's Right's doctrine, while your state could bug you on a public beach, a foreign government (i.e. another state or the federal gov) could not come into your state and bug you on a nude beach. This does make some sense. Note: Virginia just so happens to currently be protesting New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg running an undercover sting opeartion in VA against gun dealers - Virginia has now made it illegal for any "foreign government" to run undercover sting operations in Virginia.

    So, if Virginia has a problem with New York secretly bugging Virginians, how can Virginia approve it secretly bugging Californians?

    The Beach Tape will never make it into any trial, don't think it was ever intended to be admissiable evidence.

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  95. There's no mention of the FBI in the affadavit, oddly enough. How does the DEA justify its participation when there's no talk of a drug crime?

    The FBI is mentioned as assisting with information about computer activity (pages 4-5).

    As for the DEA, "no talk" doesn't mean it isn't under investigation. Drugs could have been discovered during the VA search in quantities sufficient to interest the DEA - though that's entirely speculation.

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  96. Nice to hear from J&H's Legal team ;)

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  97. The FBI was explicitly *not* a member of the Task Force that did the bugging, yet the DEA was-- that's what I find strange.

    Now, as far as admissabilty of the tape as evidence, even if it was procured absent a warrant, the participants need to possess a reasonable expectation of privacy in order for a 4th amendment objection to admitting the tape. It's a toss up as to whether or not such a reasonable expectation existed.

    Finally, the Task Force that did the surveillance was composed of Federal, PA *and* California agencies, thus getting around any possible objection by California that its resident were somehow bugged behind the state's back. Plus, the residents of the state of CA were not charged-- only VA residents were-- thus depriving CA of standing to object.

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  98. not sure what Barry Taylor noticed about the intercepted conversation that was so obviously inappropriate to him ... it could just be that so many hands handled so much different evidence.

    Harlow's Brother and Mother both have myspace pages to raise money for H & J legal defense fund

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  99. So, if Virginia has a problem with New York secretly bugging Virginians, how can Virginia approve it secretly bugging Californians?

    Virginia objected to NYC investigators secretly taping VA gun dealers on their own, without the participation of VA or Federal agencies. The California tapes were made jointly by VA, CA, PA and Federal agencies - not only an entirely different scenario, but in fact exactly the way VA is saying this sort of thing should be done.

    There's nothing so far to indicate that the CA recordings won't be admissable. The involvement of all agencies with an interest makes it more likely that they will be, since all would have had a chance to vet the process and there's less chance that, for instance, CA authorities cooked up something on their own that isn't valid under PA law.

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  100. Word is Damon Kruezer has some kind of bombshell news thats gonna rock your world and make everybuddy wonder if they really know what they think they know. I wonder what it is?

    I mean he's been totally accurate about Falcon and about Jack Shamama and now about Chi Chi Larue's PR guy getting dumped, so who's to say if he really doesn't have some connections?

    Also Damon got himself interviewed again by a big mainstream mag and now i hear hes being hired to consult with the defense lawyers. That's on top of selling his script to the TV ppl. He sent an outline of it to some ppl and i saw it and U know its pretty damn good. You guyz can call him psycho if U want but man, has he used this case to get all kinds of attention and money or what?

    Crazy like a fox if U ask me! You guyz arent jealous or anything right? I hear that paid mouthpiece Jason Curious and that nasty old queen Mark Adams are calling everyone to find out who his sources are but they're not finding anything so far. hehehe...

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  101. well, when dk earns money from his scripts he should hire a webmaster. his page ingnores all knowledge about readability, typesetting and page layout. i m hardly able to read what he is writing.

    he might have some sources to rumors. actually he is a good source for links. however a lot of thinks he presents on his webpage are discussed before in blog or forums.

    to many contributions on his page just deal with how bad the world is to dk.

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  102. So the person that is benefitting most from Bryan's murder seems to be Damon Kruezer. Now I know there is no justice in the world!

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  103. Damon Kreuzers and his blatant lies are now getting to the point that he is going to get people killed. He is claiming that he has inside sources in the Virginia Courts and his lies are becoming more so serious. His claims of courthouse informants, secret sources and information directly from the source is just a little bizarre. He claims to have spoken to Harlow and Joe when not a couple of weeks prior to his claims of an interview I was told in an email by Joe and Harlow they were going to be doing an interview. So I called them to get more details and they said it was with MTV about Bryan Kocis. I asked them who was doing the interview and they said Damon Kruezer and asked if I had ever heard of him. I told them yes and that I would not talk to him I told them I did not believe he worked for MTV or any other magazine and I also told them about his web site and all the sordid details that I had on him. I told them that Damon was Bad News.

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  104. Please because Damon Kruezer says he is benefitting it's true? That is laughable. Have you noticed that he nerver says who is paying him? He misrepresents himself to people for sure, but were it true he would say who it was. He doesn't because it is not true. We shall see if the defense lawyers are paying him.... Come on Damon tell us the magazine and the television people? DARE U

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  105. If you read an anonymous post it is probably Damon posting thats how he operates.ask the question and then answeres the question.

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  106. May 25, 2007 10:42 AM Damon do you ever read what you write ? Do you realize how delusional you are? Well Kent I will have you know I have sent emails to EVERY News link listed on Juliens page providing copious evidence to the mental instability and Fantasy life that is Damon Kruezer AKA Kent Barclay.

    Any legit news source that has anything to do with you has lost ALL credibility! I assure you YOU will not be called by Harlows Or Joes defense team because your credibility would be eviscerated at Trial. The Gay community will see to that.

    I have an extensive DK Archive as well as the Tommy Socks webpage saved. If you have ANYTHING to do with this trial you can be sure the prosecution will see this material.

    SKITTER SKITTER Damon heads for the crack in the wall La Cucaracha cant stand the light! LOL

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  107. Well I have it on a good authority that the Pennsylvania police are leaking information to Damon Kreuzer to undermine the defense in the Harlow Cuadra and Joeseph Kerekes case. It would appear that they want this case over as fast as possible. I think that is underhanded and dirty on the part of the Pennsylvania State Police. Why would they do this? what are they trying to hide? I guess they don’t really think that Damon Kruezer is that credible and if they leak to him no one will believe it. I also heard from a reliable source that a well to do “friend” of the accused is going to pony up some cash for the defense.

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  108. elmysterio said...

    Damon Kreuzers and his blatant lies are now getting to the point that he is going to get people killed.


    Your own lies are evident here, you do the same thing. Bwahhhhhhh.

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  109. Elm, I read and reread your article and I'm a little bit puzzled. You seem to contradict yourself.
    Do I understand you right: you believe Harlow didn't commit the murder but was present at the scene OR at least arranged the deed?

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  110. I think El Mysterio and Julien should get in touch with Damon directly and record a conversation as Damon did with Bryan Kocis and Sean Lockhart and Harlow Cuadara.

    Otherwise they don't know anything by directly or personally researching such a major figure as Damon which negates the entire purpose of their blogs doesn't it?

    As a new reader of this blog its amazing to me how you guys go in for personal attacks and present negative allegations about Damon Kruezer as if they were proven fact. I have to wonder, what's it to you who Damon really is, or what he says on his website, or who may be paying him for whatever? Honestly how does that affect you in any way? You are OBSESSED with Damon and Im sure he is getting off on your trying to degrade and defame him, as all U are doing is making him bigger and more important.

    Also the element of judgment bothers me, if you havent personally dealt with Damon K or done business with him, how do you KNOW anything other than what the haters say?

    Kevin Clarke is especially bad in this way. Considering that Kevin Clarke has never met DK or communicated with DK as far as I know, and considering he has never talked or met with any of the principals unlike the way Damon has, I don't see how his bitter rantings have any credibility or relevance.

    Now straighten out and fly right guyz and show some fairness and willingness to find out for yourselves exactly what is going on before you run your mouths.
    Damon K is a major figure rapidly gaining in popularity, credibility and financial gain so maybe it's time to make peace with him.

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  111. Anonymous said...
    Damon K is a major figure rapidly gaining in popularity, credibility and financial gain so maybe it's time to make peace with him.


    The fact that you "believe" DK is a major figure growing in popularity, credibility and financial gain (all thanks to Bryan's murder), makes me sick! Actually, since I believe this is DK himself posting, my word of advice is to go away and never come back!

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  112. Why anon u sure seem to know alot about DK. Do you really think you fool anyone when you post like this?

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  113. b2 said...
    Elm, I read and reread your article and I'm a little bit puzzled. You seem to contradict yourself.
    Do I understand you right: you believe Harlow didn't commit the murder but was present at the scene OR at least arranged the deed?
    May 25, 2007 1:27 PM

    I don’t see where I said that Harlow or Joe were present at the scene. What I said was based on the affidavit. I did not say one way or the other who killed Bryan.

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  114. Kent,
    You are right that I nave never talked with you. The rest is false. Your worry is not me, it is the hundreds of people you have terrorized through the years. They will do you in.

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  115. Damon you are a blazing idiot if you think I will even get any where near you. don't post you lies on my blog. I don't have time for you and I will not fight with you here now oe ever. if you have issues with people take them some where else.

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  116. ELM,
    Well said.

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  117. Well, elm, in your first paragraph you seem to seek an explanation for the incidents at the evening: "... if that is the case and if so did Bryan threaten Harlow and this lead to Bryan’s death ...". You don't seem to eliminate the possibility of Harlows presence.
    Later in your article you seem to presume Harlows innocence (your last paragraph).
    I'm just wondering.

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  118. Hmm. Let's assume for a moment that the police or DA's office *are* leaking info to their benefit. Which makes more sense: leak it to, day, a reporter you trust (and have worked with before) at the Times Leader, Citizen's Voice, Scranton Times, OR leak it to some obscure out-of-town blogger you never met?

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  119. kent you ridiculous peice of shit. MTV? give us all a break. i dont think mtv hires grossly overwieght balding 58 yearold hiding in his mother's welfare motel, you are even more delusional than i thought.

    once again, you turn a crumb into a meal. your site is the laughing stock of the industry and everybody saw the court papers where you get your mother evicted.

    hiding in a field behind a bush? telling the court, with a straight face that you have a lease to live in a mailbox?

    you will never be legitimate. you will only get to smell it.

    i laughed my head off when i saw that some local affiliate had mistaken you for a credible news source.

    lets see if they continue to deal with you kent, after the dossier i just sent them. see if you can even get them to return your calls.

    this is the 2008 version of wak a mole. Once a Luezer, always a Luezer.

    i heard a rumour that ...somebody... is going to post Kent Barclay Exposed so that future affiliates cannot be fooled if they google you.

    Who owns KentBarclay.com? Who is a master of google and actual traffic (not the pretend statistics you put up)

    the party is over, you pathetic old queen-

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  120. elmysterio said...

    Damon you are a blazing idiot if you think I will even get any where near you. don't post you lies on my blog.


    elmysterio posts enough of his own lies. Fuck off Damon

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  121. I always cite all my sources, and from everything I'd been able find out, there was only positive information regarding Kruezer from his own website, everything else was negative. I have no personal issue with DK, and I'm not sure why he continues to try to ride our bandwagon.

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  122. b2 said...
    Well, elm, in your first paragraph you seem to seek an explanation for the incidents at the evening: "... if that is the case and if so did Bryan threaten Harlow and this lead to Bryan’s death ...". You don't seem to eliminate the possibility of Harlows presence.
    Later in your article you seem to presume Harlows innocence (your last paragraph).
    I'm just wondering.

    May 25, 2007 2:06 PM

    Just to reiterate that I never said that Joe and Harlow were in the house. I was referring to the beach tapes. As far as them killing Bryan I also never said that either. I posted answers to questions posed Voch. so if you think that I am pulling a Damon Luezer you are some mistaken bitches. I have no reason to lie to any of you. And here is the actual paragraph that you mentioned and it is clearly explained here.

    "From what Harlow said in the San Diego beach tapes he intimated that he thought Bryan knew Danny Molina was fake". Now that I find interesting and I truly do wonder if that is the case and if so did Bryan threaten Harlow and this lead to Bryan’s death. Here are some of the questions that one of my readers asked of me. This is in regards to the emails that I shared with Harlow and Joe and Grant.

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  123. Guys, whoever these Anon posters are today, be them Damon or someone else, they want to distract us from discussing the case, and they are succeeding, at least so far. I say just ignore them so they won't continue to try and hijack Elm's blog and our discussion.

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  124. Anonymous said...
    elmysterio said...

    Damon you are a blazing idiot if you think I will even get any where near you. don't post you lies on my blog.


    elmysterio posts enough of his own lies. Fuck off Damon

    May 25, 2007 2:36 PM


    well if I lie so much go over to brent's Blog they always tell the truth over there. Kisses Dear.
    and just so you and anybody knows I am only on the side of the truth so you can accuse me of what you want but that will not stop the truth from coming out.Damnit!

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  125. Damon Kruezer the home of toilet journalism.

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  126. elm, I just asked to understand your article a bit better - no reason to become aggressive. Sorry for asking, I'm not doing it anymore.

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  127. It's one of the unfortunate ironies of this whole case, that DK managed to get his interview with H/J, right before the arrest. Now, he gets to interject himself into the case, and draw media attention to himself..which has been his wet dream fantasy all along.

    Funny thing is, he claims to be working for Joe to get out on bail. Well, the problem is, the (probably fictional) interview details he relates H/J about to flee and try to evade arrest...which of course, he talks them out of.

    Funny this is, in that if this tale is taken seriously by the prosecution, it can be used as evidence AGAINST Joe in a bail hearing...it paints him (and Harlow) as flight risks.

    He seems to be hurting Joe right now, way than he's helping...which can't be considered anything but a LOL!

    Oh yeah, and lets get this out of the way...

    Gee, it's now day 6 (of 29), and there is no news of Brent and Grant being charged or arrested with anything connected to the murder!

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  128. wooosh - appears that Dk is turning out to be the major poster here ... as elms says its pretty obvious that he asks questions as one ... then answers as another ... I for one was one over here that had never herd of DK ... but on some research ... yes i gotta agree with many of you in that the guy has no clues .....
    does it also shows again that H&J were not the sharpest tacs on the box ... cause a quick few glances at DK sure show something is amiss...
    as for being paid by the defence ... man those poor two blokes are goona fry if DK is on their team
    and as for the tv deals and the mags ... man - i guess they figure its gonna be cheap ... much are a few months supply of lithium worth ... its a sad sad day if you got DK on ya side ...

    now there are rants and theories and then there are DK's posts ... which are all about DK and not about the facts or H&J ...

    we need the google fairy in here to wave the wand just once and expose all the annons..

    and just who would we see reveled?

    i w o n d e r

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  129. b2 said...

    elm, I just asked to understand your article a bit better - no reason to become aggressive. Sorry for asking, I'm not doing it anymore.

    May 25, 2007 3:19 PM

    Play nice, agree with elmysterio and all will be ok.

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  130. I am sure the police are still working on this case and that the so called "eliminate the porn competition" motive is just BS they released to make Grant and Sean think they are in the clear. Plus they had to start somewhere and now that they have the "HIT MEN " they can work on them to rat on the instigators. I mean talk about motive, as soon as Bryan was dead, Brent Corrigan online started accepting subscriptions again .............

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  131. It's been suggested, most recently by our host ElM, that Grant Roy and Sean Lockhart could be in serious trouble if Harlow Cuadra and Joe Kerekes decided to enter into a plea bargain with the authorities.

    I don't think so.

    It seems to me that this theory is based on the idea that Harlow and Joe, in exchange for a more lenient sentence, would agree to (1) plead guilty to the murder of Bryan Kocis and (2) agree to turn state's evidence against Grant and Sean.

    The problem I have with this theory is that I don't see that Harlow and Joe have any credible evidence against Grant and Sean that the authorities do not already have. The authorities already know abouut the meeting at La Cirque at which a deal was supposedly discussed and a verbal agreement reached. (As Yogi Berra said, a verbal agreement is not worth the paper it's written on.) They also have Grant's account of that meeting, which admittedly is probably self-serving.

    So what can Harlow and Joe offer to the authorities in exchange for a reduced sentence. In my opinion, nothing. They can only offer to contradict Grant's account of what occurred at the Las Vegas dinner.

    So here we would have the testimony of two convessed murderers. I can't see the prosecution wanting to put Harlow or Joe on the stand as witnesses against Grant (and possibly Sean).

    On the question of "camps," before September 2005 I had never heard of either Cobra Video or Brent Corrigan. While googling on something or other, I happened to hit on this story about a gay porn actor (Brent Corrigqn) who claimed to have been underage in certain movies.

    My first reaction was, "Why would he want to do that?" I continued to follow the item and concluded that he did it because he wanted to break his contract with Cobra and go into business for himself. My reaction to this was nagative.

    But then I read some reports of the way Bryan Kocis treated his models, including Brent, and I became more sympathetic to Brent.

    But I have still not seen a Cobra video with Brent Corrigan and so I do not consider myself a Brent fan.

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  132. anonymous said...
    I mean talk about motive, as soon as Bryan was dead, Brent Corrigan online started accepting subscriptions again .............


    There is a settlement, that's why they can accept subscriptions again.

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  133. I am still watching how things are progressing but see no need to post within internicene wars or spurious suposition.

    Three things do amuse me:-

    (1) Why has Jim chosen 29 days rather than the 120 days it took between Bryan's murder and the arrests?

    (2) Will Jim draw a line in the sand at day 29?

    (3) "Line in the sand" is one of the few non-biblical (Tyndale) idioms I like to use but it relates to the Alamo which I guess has a special resonance amongst you folks in Tx.

    Y'all take care.

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  134. Anonymous said...
    But then I read some reports of the way Bryan Kocis treated his models, including Brent, and I became more sympathetic to Brent.


    And who exactly were those reports from, the ones that told how poorly Bryan treated his models? They were from Sean and, more specifically and on numerous occasions, Grant.

    We have two models who have posted how well they were treated by Bryan - Aaron and Cameron. Cameron, by the way, posted that he liked Sean, so he didn't say something good about Bryan and follow-up with something bad about Sean.

    Also, Bryan was very close to Aaron and Austin, as has been posted on here. If Bryan treated both so poorly, why in the world would they choose to remain friends with him, even after they left Cobra Video?

    My point is that the reports of Bryan treating Sean poorly came from just one source (I do recall another Cobra model, Eric, being quoted, as that appeared on Sean's blog - no surprise there).

    Did Bryan treat his models as well as George Duroy treats his Bel Ami boys? I highly doubt it. Did he treat his models as well as Chi Chi LaRue treats her models? Again, highly doubt it.

    But I also highly doubt ANYTHING that Sean and Grant (especially Grant) have to say about Bryan.

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  135. BREAKING NEWS

    Robert Wagner was arrested this afternoon. Will post more info as it comes in.

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  136. Rob said

    "we need the google fairy in here to wave the wand just once and expose all the annons..

    and just who would we see reveled?

    i w o n d e r"

    May 25, 2007 3:53 PM

    DK is giving Anons a bad name. Rob, one of the great things about the internet is Anonymity.

    Can we get back to the case...

    I have a question for Cad or any other law types here.....

    Currently there is no evidence that Grant had anything to do with the killing. If some turns up (i.e like the audio tape of conversion in Vegas or something else) that does implicate Grant a minor part of the crime (such as giving info on Bryan or pointers) do you think the police or DA will act on it? I would imagine unless evidence comes up that implicates Grant in the actual killing, the police/DA will not pursue Grant cos' it undermines their (police/DA) case?

    Would you agree or disagree and why?

    Thks Guys

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  137. Does anyone know if Joe's bond hearing, which was rescheduled for today, actually took place? And if it did, anyone know what happened?

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  138. Bond hearing was postponed yet again today; Joe has a new lawyer (again)
    and if Robert Wagner was arrested, this has not be verifiable.

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  140. Harlow Cuadra interview with Damon Kruezer Inbox
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    May 17
    Mr. Terpstra I wanted to draw your attention to the "interview" that Damon Kruezer had with Harlow Cuadra the morning (Tuesday May 15)that Cuadra was arrested. Damon is a "well-known gay blogger" with a very healthy fantasy life. He has absolutely no credibility as a Blogger or journalist (which he has claimed to be)I understand you may need a heads up about the world of "Gay Blogs". The central online Actors in this case since Jan 24th are "Web Journalist" Jason Sechrest aka Jason Curious Web Site http://www.jasoncurious.com/desk/ (warning gay porno site) Contact info JASON SECHREST
    8205 Santa Monica Blvd. #1-175, West Hollywood, CA 90046
    Phone/Fax: (323) 650-1952 AOL IM: JasonSechrest The other Blogger involved from the beginning is elmysterio at http://elmysterio.blogspot.com/ he has email in his profile Juliens Gay Rant Page http://julienpdx.blogspot.com/ may have some articles since he was contacted early in the case by Police. Who am I? [REDACTED} For now you need to know this case started online and the murder investigation has involved a lot of online speculation much of it started by Mr.Kerekes designed to deflect speculation that He and Cuadra were involved in the Kocis murder. Finally this is probably too involved & complicated a case for Television News to cover. I know the Local papers in Pennsy have been involved from the beginning. They are probably the best place to start. The Timesleader & Citizens Voice in particular. This case is DEEPLY entwined with a very small subset of the Web The Gay Porn Blog ,,,but this is where it started (& at My Space) XXXXXXXXXXXX NOTE:Email I sent to WVEC's Patrick Terpstra

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  141. b2 said...
    elm, I just asked to understand your article a bit better - no reason to become aggressive. Sorry for asking, I'm not doing it anymore.
    May 25, 2007 3:19 PM

    I’m sorry I did not mean to be rude just having a bad day I guess. Based on the affidavit it says they were there but I can’t say one way or the other. I was not there. I did have contact with Joe and Harlow and I was basing my opinion on the conversations and their demeanor during said conversations. The one thing that I can say about Joe and Harlow is that they always tried to make them selves seem much more than what they are, but cold blooded killers to me it doesn’t really fit. But that is my opinion.

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  142. Anon.

    Where was Robert Wagner arrested:-

    NY ?
    PA ?
    VA ?

    What is your source ?

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  143. Anonymous said...
    b2 said...

    elm, I just asked to understand your article a bit better - no reason to become aggressive. Sorry for asking, I'm not doing it anymore.

    May 25, 2007 3:19 PM

    Play nice, agree with elmysterio and all will be ok.

    May 25, 2007 4:39 PM


    you apparently have anger issues and you really need to start posting with your own name Granted most will not believe anything that you say.

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  144. Anon says, "BREAKING NEWS

    Robert Wagner was arrested this afternoon. Will post more info as it comes in.


    If true, this will be a very surprising development. That is, if his arrest has anything to do with this case.

    I'd recommend we await confirmation one way or the other before we start with any new theories.

    I'm apprehensive to believe an Anon poster, at this point.

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  145. It is simply unfair to even speculate on unverified information from an anonymous source. If someone has valid information about someone source it, or don't post it. People's lives and reputations are at stake here, this is not a game.

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  146. There is a my space page set up by Harlow's family to assist in his legal fees here is a link to it.http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=193822698
    there is also one set up by jioes family as well and here is a link to it.http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=191603050

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  147. Kevin, I think the thrill of anonymously publishing any wild and outlandish claim without being held accountable for the damage it might cause is just too much for some people.

    I wish at the very least people had to have screen names in order to post, even if the names were just ones to hide behind.

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  148. BB has been strangely silent today! I've already confirmed from several sources that BB is in fact Robert Wagner!

    I wouldn't be surprised if an arrest did occur that it has something to do with his and other's insistence that Brent and Grant are in someway involved in Bryan's death. Since that is NOT the case his along with others continued baseless allegations and insinuations to in someway implicate them may have backfired?

    You don't fuck with a high-profile prosecution's star witnesses if you don't want the law to come down on you hard!

    I would imagine this logic has a great deal substance given "CAD's" sudden change in tune?

    In addition since he and Bryan's sister supposedly are now and have been running Cobra Video since Bryan's death, why does the 2257 compliance statement for custodian of records for both www.CobraVideo.com or www.BrentCorriganXXX.com still display "B.Kocis"?

    It appears to me, that Cobra Video is and has been in blatant violation of the law since Bryan's passing? If in fact the attorney retains the records, shouldn't his name and address be now displayed to be compliant with US Federal law? This also could be the reason for an arrest if such an event has occurred.

    I guess since Cobra never really observed the law before, why start now, right?

    Just couple of other observations. Can't wait to hear if the little BioBoy was taken in. I bet he squeals like the little pig that he is by giving up his former mentor and all his transgressions!

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  149. can someone explain me why so many people seem to hate aaron?

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  150. Well, Elm, it's unfortunate that it came to you having to require this but it's more than understandable.

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  152. >>> ab <<< said...

    can someone explain me why so many people seem to hate aaron?

    May 25, 2007 7:21 PM


    Possibly because he was Bryan's Mini-Me?

    Just a guess!

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  153. ab says, "can someone explain me why so many people seem to hate aaron?"

    I'm not so sure it's so many people who seem to hate Aaron. In my view, there only person posting here who seems to hate Aaron and I think we all know who that individual is. As to why, I have no idea.

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  154. "I would imagine this logic has a great deal substance given "CAD's" sudden change in tune?"

    I would love to know what the hell you mean by this appropriation of my opinions.

    I admit that I am strangely surprised by a variety of approaches towards me in the past few days but it does not change my opinion on what has happened since Sean Lockhart chose to work for Cobra Video.

    For the avoidance of any doubt my opinion today is the very same as on that dark day in January as to whom is responsible for the murder of Bryan Kocis.

    As to whose hand actually slashed Bryan's throat it seems most likely that either Joe of Harlow did the deed.

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  155. Grant (anon 7:13, anon 7:25), don't you have anything better to do on a Friday night? Shouldn't you and your "boy" be out cruising for Jeremy-types to "hang out" with?

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  156. What did Aaron do to Grant?

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  157. "What did Aaron do to Grant?"

    he did not agree with grant or with sean´s version of certain events.

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  158. wow so i am back to being 'aaron' again.

    of all the people to miss me, HELLO COBRAKILLER, your not off the hook, no matter what you say. as for your toxic twink being the 'star witness' it is not the nuremberg trials. its all about whores and those who use them coz they want to be them, on that you are an expert.

    'star witness' ROFLMFAO.

    as for this aaron person, why are you so scared of him? has he done or said something to drop you in where you belong? not that i expect an answer, only another anon rant.

    you really are unbelievable.

    'star witness' lolololololol.

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  159. any confirmation on aaron's arrest? what name would he be arrested under?

    jody, i agree "I wish at the very least people had to have screen names in order to post, even if the names were just ones to hide behind."



    "You don't fuck with a high-profile prosecution's star witnesses"

    still cracks me up - never heard of a escort/porn model be referred to that way before.

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  160. Albert and DeWayne

    Do you still watch your copies of Every Poolboys Dream ?

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  161. Know what struck me as funny? That Grant would approach a potential model who fucked bareback on screen, after both his and Sean's repeated attacks on Bryan and anything to do with bareback porn. Even Sean posted on JG that he had decided not to do any more bareback scenes. Yet they approach and at the very least discuss the possibility of working with a guy (Harlow) who performed, as both a top and bottom, bareback.

    Funny.

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  162. Shit looks like Aaron AKA Robert Wagner was not arrested unless it was for pandering in Times Square but he obviously bailed out since BB is posting again. Question why do we hate bb AKA Aaron real name Robert Wagner. Former Associate and boy toy to Bryan Kocis. Maybe because of the 2 people who have posted on Elms' who had the misfortune to have Bryans cock up their Ass Aaron actually "got off on it" and "enjoyed" getting slapped around. Yep babe Bryan told everybody even strangers what he did to his little dog bitch in the bedroom! And How much his boy wanted to be tied up and worked over! Bryan qoute "Well if thats what turns the boy on well the King likes to keep his bois happy"

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  163. "You don't fuck with a high-profile prosecution's star witnesses"

    i wait for a what should i wear in court room contest/poll on bco^^

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  164. am i wrong or was aaron one of the few guys in cobra video who only tops in anal sex in contrast to other guys for whom one cock up the ass isn´t enough?

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  165. I wouldn't exactly call a SUBMISSIVE a Top now would you?

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  166. So CAD, Elm, BB, and me all agree on something.

    Maybe we should tackle the Middle East Situation next...

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  167. Breaking News!!

    The Pope starts accepting gays!! Story at 11

    {puke}

    Next?

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  168. all the venom on here about Aaron is making me sick. The guy has NOT been on here at all, unless he's been reading.

    To tell you the truth, I'm really ashamed of some of the crap that's being said on here. If certain people have animosity towards others, it seems absolutely ridiculous to bring it to the blog. We're talking about the case. Aaron is NOT involved in this case other than simply being mentioned in a lawsuit. Now we've managed to out his identity as well and for what? {shakes head} C'mon guys, this is ridiculous.

    I doubt seriously that he's been posting. As far as his sexual proclivities, I don't see why this is a topic of conversation on thisblog. Elm, it's time to start reading beads... :-)

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  169. Breaking News Pope says Women accepted for the priesthood Wow Lesbian Priests instead of Lesbo Nuns!

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  170. maybe cobra starts to enforce certain parts of the settlement and some people are not happy with that and blame aaron being the bad guy. same game as always ;-)

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  171. julien says:

    "Aaron is NOT involved in this case other than simply being mentioned in a lawsuit. Now we've managed to out his identity as well and for what? {shakes head} C'mon guys, this is ridiculous."

    it is the same bs they played with bryan, that bs got bryan killed. the more they rant and rave about aaron, the more obvious it is they have something to fear.

    dont forget cobrakiller, bryans (and paying strangers) cock was up sean's ass way before got there.

    titbit just 4 u:

    on the dvd cover of 'fuck me raw', that is bryans.... nevermind :)

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  172. this aaron thing is worse than the who is bb fiasco.

    elm you really should be more careful. you brought up aaron, look what has happened. why did you do it? why did you spell out his full name on your main post? 'i did it because someone else did it first does not make it right.'

    clearly something is going on between the cobrakiller and aaron, very easy to tell from the venom he is spitting. the same venom when he thought i was caleb carter and all the other names he mentioned.

    my question is: why do so many people not like the cobrakiller? he always says the problem is with them. as usual it is everyone else who is wrong and only the cobrakiller is right. that in itself is very telling.

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  173. Anon at 8:12 asks, “Albert and DeWayne,
    Do you still watch your copies of Every Poolboys Dream ?

    I just happen to have my used copy of Every Poolboy’s Dream out of the safe today. I wanted to get the original Compliant statement off the box cover. (I bought VHS for this movie only.) The bottom of the box reads.

    “FEDERAL ARTICLE 2257 COMPLIANT: This video conforms to all requirements under 18 U.S.C. and 28 C.F.R. part 75. All models were over 18 years of age at the time of production. Unauthorized commercial exhibition in whole or part, over the internet or by any other means and/or duplication, including this package, is a criminal violation of federal copyright law. Violators will be prosecuted. Date of production: AUG, 2003; FEB, 2004. Custodian of records: J. Gabriel, 456 North Main Street, Wilkes-Barre, PA, 18702. © 2001 COBRA VIDEO, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

    I missed the part where it say’s “All our models tell us they are 18 and we believe them so it’s not our fault if we don’t really comply with the laws. “
    We all know now, J. Gabriel NEVER had the required documents, so Cobra lied. Considering Brian, that is a very minor crime.

    We could of course go after everyone in California with a fake ID. I doubt the agriculture, construction and service industries in that state would survive. You know these people are just doing jobs most Americans won’t do. (I had to go there. You get the humor in that I hope…… OK dammit. Brent was just doing a job most Americans will not do.)

    Yes CAD, I live in San Antonio less then 5 miles from the Alamo. The ’Line in the Sand.’ Means a lot to us. It really means that if you cross the line, you fight with us to the death. If you do not cross the line, we thank you for being a friend and wish you the best, and ask you to please pray for us that stay here. Be well and live in peace.

    Elm, the triangulation and trickery were indication enough. I am convinced.
    Bio Boy is busted.

    Since somebody else has started writing as Albert I added a picture. Not perfect security but I think you guys recognize my style by now.

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  174. from bco "I’m learning to fly, but I ain’t got wings”

    "# Albert Says:
    April 17th, 2007 at 2:28 am

    This is a timely question. As one of the “Old Guys,” I made my first comment here one year ago this week. That was very shortly after DeWayne made a comment. In those days, comments took days to accumulate. Now I find so many new names, fresh ideas, positive thoughts, it has been an achievement you should be proud of.
    I started following you with the release of EPD. I bought what was possibly the only video tape copy in San Antonio. Some time later I was in New Orleans (Sept 13-Dec 23) working recovery efforts. A small porn shop next to the big Marriot on Canal street reopened in mid November. I bought what may have been the last legally sold copy of SBC sold in the US. The next day it was off the shelf. Communication was very bad in the big easy.
    I think your appeal comes from your ability to say things honestly, that for anyone else to say would be lewd. You established your credibility on some matters very early on. In your CC4 interview you sound real. You are not being offensive, just bragging a little. Confidence in someone so young and naïve is well worth watching. You may have bragged a little but you were not offensive. I think you continue walking that tight rope today.
    The real success stories in the industry did not do things the conventional way. Marilyn Chambers, Jeff Stryker did not follow the “formula.” Larry sure as hell did not. What would the gay movement or porn industry be today without having had Chi Chi La Rue? I think it is now reluctantly prepared for a ’Brent Corrigan.’
    So I believe you are wrong on ’AT LEAST’ one point. You DO expect to change the industry. You want to make it safer, less abusive, better for all. That effort is not supported by everyone. You will be hated, abused, cut short at every opportunity. If that is your real goal, be prepared. The battle has not even begun.
    Politics young friend? We have so much we can agree on. I just prefer not to go there today.
    Love from Texas, Albert"

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  175. Thanks for posting that. You are so sweet.

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  176. shucks just makes ya feel all warm an' gooooy inside

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  177. Allow me to clear a few things up. BB is not Aaron. That’s what BB says and I think he is telling the truth. As for Aaron and Grant’s issues with each other it goes back to the Juicygoo forums when Aaron posted as Truth Be Told to Grants Casey Cain. Casey Cain was the bad cop to Brent Corrigan’s good cop. In the span of 3 weeks of posting on the Juicygoo forum they went form supporting Cobra Video to spreading lies about them. Then Sean Lockhart/Brent Corrigan gets outed by Truth Be Told. And the shit hit the fan. It’s abridged but it basically tells the story.
    So just to get the characters straight:

    Sean Lockhart plays Brent Corrigan

    Grant Roy plays Casey Cain

    Robert Wagner plays Aaron Phelps who is Truth Be Told on the Juicygoo forums. Who is affectionately know as Bryan’s little henchman. And only because he was trying to dispel the lies of the others on the threads.
    The rumor of the arrest of Aaron Phelps/Robert Wagner is just that a unsubstantiated rumor (a blatant lie)

    As far as the age issue of Jeremy Carrson. His being under age is also false he will be 21 in June of this year.
    In effect making him older than Sean Lockhart. I will not reveal his real name as it is not necessary to do so. Yes BB this is the truth. This is the web master form LSG Media. This just to dispel another lie told.

    There have been blatant lies told by some of the people who posted on my blog but as I have said from the beginning I have always been driven by the truth. So here is just a little bit more of this complex story to lay the groundwork for what all this is really about. Hope this helps.

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  178. yeap sure does
    now bb - wheres that pic?

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  179. As for the anonymous poster who drop little hints and spread more lies and you know who you are you are all quite obvious and we can all tell who you are. So why are you trying to hide?

    Anon May 25, 2007 1:33 PM Damon Luezer, delusional as ever.

    Anon May 25, 2007 4:50 PM Grant Roy, yeah you better pray they don’t change their pleas.

    Anon May 25, 2007 4:51 PM Grant Roy, probably the only reason your ass is not in jail as well.

    Anon May 25, 2007 5:03 PM Grant Roy, good lord your delusional.

    Anon May 25, 2007 7:13 PM Grant Roy

    Anon May 25, 2007 7:25 PM= Grant Roy

    Anon May 25, 2007 8:31 PM = Grant Roy

    Psychic friends network.

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  180. I added 2 new links to the post from one of my readers. Very good reads. You get a little more history about how this all started.

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  181. Just a note on bail: Cuadra and Kerekes will not get bail of any sort unless and until the state of VA decides on the extradition. At the moment, they are both legally considered 'fugitives from PA.' Fugitives don't get bail.

    If, for whatever strange and unlikely reason, VA decides not to render them to PA, then and only then they might try for bail.

    If VA does render them, neither of them will get bail in PA either; PA law does not allow for bond in capital cases, period.

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  182. the links work now. sorry about the confusion.

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  183. mmm yes been wanting a revisit from the ol JG days ... well found young elms

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  184. Well I'm clearly not a Sean or Grant supporter but I will say that I believe that Jeremy Carson was of age when he went to work for LSG.

    It still doesn't explain why they would hire such an inexperienced guy to be there.....

    Oh wait, he's really cute and looks nice naked. Nevermind

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  185. Albert, you do realize that you are in possession of child pornography, and that is illegal in this country.

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  186. It has not been proven that any of the Brent Corrigan scenes were child pornography. As a matter of fact those movies have the 2257 seal of approval.

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  187. Actually anon 8:10, it has been proven - both Elm and Julien can confirm Sean was born in 1986, making him 17 when he filmed those first four Cobra films, and making EPD, which Albert has in his possession, child pornography, despite the 2257 claims.

    I wish it weren't so, as I was one of those who believed Sean was born in 1985, but I was proven wrong (I trust Elm and Julien).

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  188. elm says:

    "BB is not Aaron. That’s what BB says and I think he is telling the truth."

    then who the fuck am I? even i am confused LOL.

    your track record of what you think is the truth is not very good (no insult meant).

    why the turn around elm? after all you have said about me, i do not understand.

    rob my pic is on my blog.

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  189. elmysterio said...

    "I added 2 new links to the post from one of my readers. Very good reads. You get a little more history about how this all started.

    May 26, 2007 2:07 AM"

    the last one is 100% correct.

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  190. Driver's licences can be faked. Bryan went to court in order to get proof of Sean's age and couldn't get it. In a court of law. One of the conditions of the agreement between Bryan and LSG was that Bryan would finally get a hold of Sean's real birth certificate, but before he could get it Bryan was killed.

    Actually i'm more apt to believe that Sean was underaged at the time those films were made but an Internet picture of a licence is not proof.

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  191. "jo said...

    Actually anon 8:10, it has been proven - both Elm and Julien can confirm Sean was born in 1986, making him 17 when he filmed those first four Cobra films"

    we have had far too many lies and fake docs from sean to take him at his word.

    only a court of law can determine sean's true age.

    this has not happened yet, though i suspect it will happen in the not too distant future.

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  192. anon says
    "One of the conditions of the agreement between Bryan and LSG was that Bryan would finally get a hold of Sean's real birth certificate, but before he could get it Bryan was killed."

    yes, very suspect is this. motive for murder? time will tell.

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  193. The Washington State Drivers License Sean posted on his blog shows his real DOB.

    The link Julien posted to Sean's arrest for being Drunk in Public shows his real DOB.

    Sean's U.S. Passport, which I've seen, shows Sean's real DOB.

    It's 1986.

    He'll be 21 in October.

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